Kelly and Nyssa celebrate their 10th episode by sharing what it’s actually like to co‑create a podcast as a married couple. They talk about starting a creative project together, dealing with perfectionism and resistance, and how real dialog helps them navigate conflict. If you’re curious about creative partnerships, podcasting as a couple, or getting unstuck in your own art, this one’s for you.

Overwhelmed by the news cycle?

In this episode, Kelly and Nyssa explore how negativity bias, constant bad news, and unfinished stress cycles impact your mental health—and what you can actually do about it.

They share practical ways to “titrate” your news intake, stay grounded in everyday life, and treat real self-care as both personal healing and quiet political resistance.

A grounded, honest conversation with Wes Bozeman from Gaze Hot Yoga. We talk yoga, touch, and how to build real community. This episode explores what happens when practice is simple, teaching is authentic, and care is offered without pretense.

In this episode, Kelly and Nyssa unpack the many layers of touch—as a human need, a source of joy, and a site of controversy—exploring consent, communication, Thai massage, and how expanding our “touch menu” can deepen intimacy and connection in relationships.

Kelly and Nyssa explore the power of retreat and silence, weaving personal stories from Zen practice, band, and self-directed retreats to show how stepping back can transform our inner lives. They offer down-to-earth metaphors and practical suggestions for bringing small doses of retreat into everyday life.

Nyssa shares her unexpected path from teen poet and open-mic regular to aromatizing Manhattan after 9/11, studying Sanskrit and religious experience, and ultimately becoming a massage therapist, aromatherapist, and coach. This episode dives into how words, scent, and touch became her tools for healing—and why the “downward spiral” is actually part of the upward spiral.

Nyssa uses the principles of Real Dialogue to interview her wife and co-host, Kelly, about how she found her way into psychology, chemical dependency work, acupuncture, and Zen Buddhism. 

In this episode, Nyssa and Kelly talk about what it means to be together as a companion to their previous conversation on being different. 

In this episode of Being Different Together, Nyssa and Kelly share personal stories of feeling “different” and explore how our built-in tendency to see difference as a threat can actually become a doorway to growth. Through dialogue therapy insights, real-life conflict, and plenty of humor (yes, including pickles), they show how difference can turn from a minefield into a playful space for deeper connection.

Kelly and Nyssa kick off Being Different Together by sharing how they discovered Real Dialogue and Dialogue Therapy, inviting listeners into deeper, more healing conversations in their relationships.

In this episode, Nyssa and Kelly introduce the heart of Being Different Together and share why conversations matter so deeply to their relationship, their work, and their community.