In this episode of our Intentionality series, Nyssa and Kelly revisit Uncle Murry Landsman’s bathroom poster to unpack three paradoxical teachings: “Everything works. Nothing works,” “Feeling good needs no excuse,” and “Anything worth doing is worth doing badly.”

Through stories of perfectionism, grief, gardening, and relationship repair, they explore how embracing imperfection and intentionality can create more freedom, joy, and real change in everyday life.

In Part 1 of our Intentionality series, we explore Murray Landsman’s slogans: “Everything you’ve done in life prepared you for this moment” and “It’s easier to get what you want when you know what it is.” We talk trauma reframing, desire, boundaries, and how intentionality can reshape everyday life.

Conflict doesn’t have to mean something is wrong. In this episode, Kelly and Nyssa explore “healthy conflict” and real dialogue, drawing on the work of Dr. Polly Young-Eisendrath and the Center for Real Dialog. Learn how to handle conflict in relationships, calm emotional triggers, and turn repetitive fights into opportunities for connection.

In this episode, Nyssa and Dr. Kelly answer a listener question about the purpose of a meditation bell and explore how bells, chimes, and everyday sounds (like traffic lights and phone dings) can become mindfulness cues that help you come back to yourself. 

They also introduce the idea of a “relational bell”—practical ways to pause, regulate, and reconnect during conflict and hard conversations in your relationships.

In this episode, Nyssa and Kelly celebrate the spring equinox with a story about their little peach tree and what it teaches us about pruning, personal growth, and real dialog. They explore how to create the right conditions for change—in yourself and your relationships—through Jungian individuation, Buddhist karma farming, and more honest communication. If you’re craving a spring reset, this conversation offers a gentle, practical way to think about what to let go of and what you’re ready to grow next.

Curious how to work with moon phases in a way that’s actually practical? 

In this episode, we talk about using the lunar cycle for goal setting, time management, and conscious relationship, plus the story of how a new moon intention (and one very memorable moon moment) helped bring us together.

Kelly and Nyssa use the “pen story” to unpack Buddhist ideas of emptiness, karma, and how reality is shaped by the seeds in our minds. They share a practical 4-step method for getting what you want—more money, love, health, or peace—by helping others get the same. A grounded, no–toxic positivity take on manifestation and intentional living.

Kelly and Nyssa celebrate their 10th episode by sharing what it’s actually like to co‑create a podcast as a married couple. They talk about starting a creative project together, dealing with perfectionism and resistance, and how real dialog helps them navigate conflict. If you’re curious about creative partnerships, podcasting as a couple, or getting unstuck in your own art, this one’s for you.

Overwhelmed by the news cycle?

In this episode, Kelly and Nyssa explore how negativity bias, constant bad news, and unfinished stress cycles impact your mental health—and what you can actually do about it.

They share practical ways to “titrate” your news intake, stay grounded in everyday life, and treat real self-care as both personal healing and quiet political resistance.

A grounded, honest conversation with Wes Bozeman from Gaze Hot Yoga. We talk yoga, touch, and how to build real community. This episode explores what happens when practice is simple, teaching is authentic, and care is offered without pretense.

In this episode, Kelly and Nyssa unpack the many layers of touch—as a human need, a source of joy, and a site of controversy—exploring consent, communication, Thai massage, and how expanding our “touch menu” can deepen intimacy and connection in relationships.

Kelly and Nyssa explore the power of retreat and silence, weaving personal stories from Zen practice, band, and self-directed retreats to show how stepping back can transform our inner lives. They offer down-to-earth metaphors and practical suggestions for bringing small doses of retreat into everyday life.

Nyssa shares her unexpected path from teen poet and open-mic regular to aromatizing Manhattan after 9/11, studying Sanskrit and religious experience, and ultimately becoming a massage therapist, aromatherapist, and coach. This episode dives into how words, scent, and touch became her tools for healing—and why the “downward spiral” is actually part of the upward spiral.

Nyssa uses the principles of Real Dialogue to interview her wife and co-host, Kelly, about how she found her way into psychology, chemical dependency work, acupuncture, and Zen Buddhism. 

In this episode, Nyssa and Kelly talk about what it means to be together as a companion to their previous conversation on being different. 

In this episode of Being Different Together, Nyssa and Kelly share personal stories of feeling “different” and explore how our built-in tendency to see difference as a threat can actually become a doorway to growth. Through dialogue therapy insights, real-life conflict, and plenty of humor (yes, including pickles), they show how difference can turn from a minefield into a playful space for deeper connection.

Kelly and Nyssa kick off Being Different Together by sharing how they discovered Real Dialogue and Dialogue Therapy, inviting listeners into deeper, more healing conversations in their relationships.

In this episode, Nyssa and Kelly introduce the heart of Being Different Together and share why conversations matter so deeply to their relationship, their work, and their community.